However, he learned the most from his nine years as a pastor of West Hopewell Presbyterian Church in the small blue-collar town of Hopewell, Virginia.

• 不过，他却从在西霍普韦尔长老会的那九年牧师任职经历中受益更多。那是一个坐落在弗吉尼亚州的霍普韦尔市的一个蓝领小镇。